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| Aircraft | N-Number | Dry rate | Wet Training Rate (no Tax) |
Wet Rate w/Tax | GPH |
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| 1969 Cessna 150J | N60559 | $38.00 | $62.87 | $65.36 | 5.7 |
| 1972 Cessna 150L | N18593 | $40.00 | $66.87 | $69.63 | 5.7 |
| 1998 7ECA Citabra | N939AB | $65.00 | $96.32 | $100.77 | 6.6 |
| 1968 Cessna 172 | N7825T | $50.00 | $89.33 | $92.77 | 8.5 |
| 1985 Piper Warrior II PA28-161 | N800KA | $52.00 | $93.11 | $96.68 | 8.9 |
| 1992 Tampico TB-9 | N5557J | $50.00 | $90.66 | $94.10 | 8.8 |
| 1969 Piper PA28-235 | N8501N | $65.00 | $127.91 | $132.37 | 13.8 |
| 1974 Piper Arrow II PA28R-200 | N608 | $85.00 | $136.03 | $141.83 | 11.1 |
Fuel reimbursement rate is $4.45 for this period. Effective immediately, this rate will affect what rate you are reimbursed for fuel receipts turned in. If you have questions, e-mail treasurer@bayareaaeroclub.org
The following table provides an ESTIMATE of the cost to obtain a Private Pilot's License through the Bay Area Aero Club. Note that this table is not updated as often as the rates table above. For more information, contact the Chief Flight Instructor.
| Aircraft | Total # of Hours |
Airplane Rental Instructor ($25/hr) |
Supplies, Medical, & Exam Fees | TOTAL COST |
| Cessna | Minimum # of 40 hrs | $2,640 | $600 | $3,990 |
| 150 | with 20 hrs Dual and 10 hours Ground | $750 | ||
| Reasonable # of 50 hrs | $3,300 | $600 | $5,025 | |
| with 30 hrs Dual and 15 hours Ground | $1,125 | |||
| Average # of 72 hrs | $4,752 | $600 | $7,202 | |
| with 49 hrs Dual and 25 hours Ground | $1,850 | |||
| Cessna | Minimum # of 40 hrs | $3,500 | $600 | $4,850 |
| 172 | with 20 hrs Dual and 10 hours Ground | $750 | ||
| Reasonable # of 50 hrs | $4,375 | $600 | $6,100 | |
| with 30 hrs Dual and 15 hours Ground | $1,125 | |||
| Average # of 72 hrs | $6,300 | $600 | $8,750 | |
| with 49 hrs Dual and 25 hours Ground | $1,850 | |||
| Piper | Minimum # of 40 hrs | $3,660 | $600 | $5,010 |
| PA28-161 | with 20 hrs Dual and 10 hours Ground | $750 | ||
| Reasonable # of 50 hrs | $4,575 | $600 | $6,300 | |
| with 30 hrs Dual and 15 hours Ground | $1,125 | |||
| Average # of 72 hrs | $6,588 | $600 | $9,038 | |
| with 49 hrs Dual and 25 hours Ground | $1,850 |
Minimum=FAA Minimum; Reasonable=2 or more flights/week; Average=National Average
AIRCRAFT INFORMATION
Note on all Weights and Balance Spreadsheets on this site:
The use of these spreadsheets is for planning purposes only. The ultimate responsibility still rests with the pilot to check the Pilot's Operating Handbook to ensure the accuracy of weight and balance calculations. Bay Area Aero Club makes no warranties regarding the accuracy of these spreadsheets.
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General Information:
| Model: | N60559 1969 Cessna 150J |
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Garmin GPS Pilot III |
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1. Block time: When 20 hours or more is leased within a 6 month
period, the rate is discounted by $4/hr. 2. 1st hour of rental associated with student flight training in 60559 will be discounted by $10. 3. 1st hour of any BFR will be discounted by $10. |
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1. For incentive 1, you can request the rebate at anytime when you
have at least 20 hours leased within the 6 months prior to the
request date. Please send me a courtesy email when you decide you
will be going for the rebate. For incentives 2 and 3, you must apply within 7 days of the end of the billing cycle your hours are billed in. 2. Send the rebate request only to this email address: mneipert@gmail.com Subject line of the email for incentive 1 1. Name, 2. Member number, 3. Incentive type, 4. Dates of first and last flights to be counted, 5. Number of total hours, 6. Amount of rebate requested Example: (please do not deviate on the form - use the exact form below) John Doe, 2001, Block time, 8/30/2009 – 12/6/2009, 28.2, $56.4 Subject line of the email for incentives 2 and 3 1. Name, 2. Member number, 3. Incentive type, 4. Date of flight, 5. Instructor Name (Put contact info in the body of the email if they are not listed on BAAC website), 6. Amount of rebate Example: (please do not deviate on the form - use the exact form below) John Doe, 2001, BFR, 8/30/2009, Jane Smith, $10 3. Once the hours for the month are delivered to the owner the owner will approve, deny, amend and copy the treasurer on the rebate. Treasurer will apply to the next billing cycle, so you will not see the rebate in the month you flew that trip. Note: Incentives 2 and 3 CAN be used in conjunction with incentive 1. Incentive 2 can be used even if student has previous flight training in other aircraft. For incentives 2 and 3, at least one hour of flight time must be used in a single flight to qualify. |
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General Information:
| 1985 Piper Warrior II | |
| PA-28-161 | |
| Lycoming O320 D3G 160 Hp 4 cylinder |
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| Total Time: | |
| 8324 Hours, 629 SMOH on 6/26/07 |
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| Radios and Auto Pilot: | |
| NARCO CP 136 TSO | Comm. Panel |
| NARCO MK 12D TSO | 2 NAV/VOR/GLS |
| NARCO DME 890 | DME |
| NARCO ADF 841 TSO | ADF |
| NARCO AT 150 TSO | Transponder |
| Sigtronic SPA-400 TSO | 4 Place Intercom all connected |
| Horizon Electronic Tach | |
| STec Auto Pilot | Model 40 |
| GPS Manuals GNS430W: | |
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| 1974 Piper Arrow II (retractable) |
| PA-28R-200 |
| Lycoming IO-360 |
| Equiped as a complex trainer for commercial students and for instrument training with
a Garmin GNS 430W GPS coupled to a 3-axis autopilot. WAAS approaches can be practiced in the
comfort of air conditioning. It also has a storm scope that will give an advanced heads up on
those Texas thunder storms that always try to rain on your flight plan. Last, but not least, N608 has numerous speed mods and Hoerner wing tips that will give you true air speeds up to 150 KTS at 6500 feet. This makes for reasonably fast economical IFR cross countries within a range of 600 nautical miles. |
| Total Time: |
| 5900 Hours 5/05/09 |
| Equipment: |
| King KMA20 Audio Panel |
| Piper Autocontrol III |
| Autopilot S-Tec System 60 Pitch Control System |
| Garmin GNS 430W |
| EDM 700 Engine Analyzer |
| King KN64 Digital DME |
| Garmin GTX-320 Mode C Transponder |
| PM-1000 4 place intercom with music |
| Air conditioning |
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General Information:
| Model: | 7825T 1968 Cessna 172K IFR cert. |
| Engine: | Lycoming O320-E2D/E3D 150 HP. |
| Avionics: |
Terra TMA 340D Audio panel. King KX 155 nav/com Val 760 com Apollo GX 55 moving map GPS. King KT 178 transponder PS Engineering 4 place intercom. |
GPS Manuals KLN94:
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General Information:
| Type: | Piper PA28-235 |
| Registration: | N8501N |
| Airframe Total Time: | 3170 hours |
| Engine HP: | 235 hp |
| Engine Times: | 1170 SMOH 250 STOH |
| Prop Times: | 50 SNEW |
| Check List: |
Page 1 Page 2 |
| Performance: |
Useful Load - 1,317 Pounds Fuel - 87 Octane or 100 LL Fuel Capacity - 84 Gallons Cruise @ 65% - 125 kts Cruise @ 75% - 135 kts Range with Full Fuel - 900nm Climb @ STD & SL - 1,000 - 1,200 |
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2 Narco MK12D TSO Nav/Com both w/GS 4 Place Intercom w/CD connection King KMA-24 Avionics Master w/3 light markers Narco AT150 TSO Transponder w/mode C Garmin/Apollo GX-55 (coupled to AP) Piper 2-axis AP with Tracker KS Avionics 6 Point CHT/EGT engine monitor Vertical Card Compass (PAI 700) Alternate NAV/COM connection for handhelds Astro Tech LC-2 Quartz Chronometer clock/stopwatch Hobbs Meter Standby Vacuum System PTT - Pilot and Co-Pilot Brand new Hartzell 3-Blade Scimitar Prop Panel Mounted Garmin 496 w/Weather (manual) |
Click here for a Weights and Balance Spreadsheet (opens a new window and requires Excel)
ALWAYS CONSULT THE POH to ensure accuracy. No warranty is made as to the accuracy of this spreadsheet. It is meant only as a tool to help you with your calculations. The pilot is responsible for the accuracy of the W&B.|
I put the plane in the club because I thought we needed a plane with enough speed and carrying capacity for a family to win out over driving a car. Here it is: 135 Knots indicated, range 900nm (w/ reserve), Garmin with weather, and speed ($/knot) / carrying capacity competes with the other planes we have. Again, this is a trip plane so there are some incentives listed below. |
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1. 1st two hours of rental associated with the checkout time of 8501N
will be discounted by $10 per hour. 2. If the a/c is flown 6+ hours in a single trip, it will be discounted by $10 per hour. |
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1. You meet the incentive requirements and apply for the incentive
within 7 days of the end of the billing cycle your hours are billed
in. 2. You drop the owner a note at only this email address: 8501N-incentive@ requesting X rebate, earned, X date, X hours. Include your name and member number also. Example: (please do not deviate on the form - use the exact form below) John Doe 2001 - $20 5/1/08 2.1hrs 3. Once the hours for the month are delivered to the owner the owner will will approve, deny, amend and copy the treasurer on the rebate. 4. Treasurer will apply to the next billing cycle. So, ... you will not see the rebate in the month you flew that trip. |
